tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30567906.post3447057321725123423..comments2023-12-19T00:27:40.453-10:00Comments on .: Concrete IrrationalityMcGuirehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03095242258892600138noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30567906.post-86065068951069606332008-12-07T10:31:00.000-10:002008-12-07T10:31:00.000-10:00I wrote this long while ago, it is pretty weak but...I wrote this long while ago, it is pretty weak but in answer to your questions; no you don't need to know who Tzara is, but it won't harm to interested reader to go and find out. And the smilies signify nothing more than what they signify - a happy face and a sad face. Obtuse, I know. Whilet the collage was made by a dada practictioner during WW1, it is constructed from written/pictorial<BR/>/magazine sources. <BR/><BR/>I'm paying homage to the dada type spirit. Interpreting it in my humble like but perhaps it reads rather baffling and incomprehensible. a misadventure, i enjoyed./McGuirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095242258892600138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30567906.post-25897589700655848472008-12-07T04:59:00.000-10:002008-12-07T04:59:00.000-10:00No, I feel I need to know the rules of how to read...No, I feel I need to know the rules of how to read this poem before I start. Is it important that I know who Tristan Tzara is for example? Is the graphic relevant? Do the two smileys suggest a theatrical connection? I could go on. Basically I have more questions about this poem that I have answers. <BR/><BR/>There are good ideas in the piece, e.g.<BR/><BR/> There are many Grey Chair people<BR/> who do nothing except let other people sit <BR/> on them!<BR/><BR/> The boy who was a thief of consciousness<BR/> Stole someone's memories and took over <BR/> their life,<BR/> and regretted it because it reminded him of <BR/> his own <BR/> mind.<BR/><BR/>Both these stanzas could stand as poems on their own right or be the basis of other poems. <BR/><BR/>I accept that this poem is a collage but I can't see the picture I'm afraid.Jim Murdochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12786388638146471193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30567906.post-16055980301831188862008-12-07T04:40:00.000-10:002008-12-07T04:40:00.000-10:00Intrigued to know what annoys you about it Jim, do...Intrigued to know what annoys you about it Jim, do tell? I imagine you find it too 'gimmicky'? Let me know.<BR/><BR/>Thanks david. You prefer the visual collage rather than the word collage. I suppose they both offer alternatives. I was trying to create a word collage. when you re and reread it new images and comparisons arise. At least, that was my intention, perhaps it hasn't worked.McGuirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095242258892600138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30567906.post-86798210885053352552008-12-07T01:44:00.000-10:002008-12-07T01:44:00.000-10:00The collage works well. I have studied it for a bi...The collage works well. I have studied it for a bit and can still find more in it. I am not a great collage person, but I could wish that I had created this one.<BR/><BR/>Like Jim, I am, not sure about the poem, it doesn't resonate with me the way the collage does.Dave Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08430484174826768488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30567906.post-17283875664588740622008-12-05T22:02:00.000-10:002008-12-05T22:02:00.000-10:00Perhaps not academically qualified but I really do...Perhaps not academically qualified but I really don't have the right mindset for this kind of poetry - it annoys me first and foremost and I can never seem to get over that.Jim Murdochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12786388638146471193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30567906.post-57409704149447227762008-12-05T14:31:00.000-10:002008-12-05T14:31:00.000-10:00Unqualified? Odd. Do you really need to be thoroug...Unqualified? Odd. Do you really need to be thoroughly qualified to read absurd poetics? <BR/><BR/>I think this is read by many people as a hideous piece of contortion, juxtaposing, images that are incongruous, ridiculous, jarringly abusrd, idiotic and completely nonsensical. Perhaps it just reads pretentious, but that was not my intention. I genuinely love the spontaneous playfulness of dadaist gibberish and observation. <BR/><BR/>I think I've ended where I began, in absurdity.McGuirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03095242258892600138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30567906.post-5649074817768988242008-12-05T03:50:00.000-10:002008-12-05T03:50:00.000-10:00Interesting but I'm not sure how qualified I am to...Interesting but I'm not sure how qualified I am to comment on it. I like the 'Grey Chair people'. Fourth has a 'u' in it. <BR/><BR/>I have a post coming up about Surrealist writers and I mention Tzara but I'd never heard of him before I started doing my research and I remember precious little now.<BR/><BR/>I can see where you're coming from but I'm not sure where you've ended up. Not very helpful I know.Jim Murdochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12786388638146471193noreply@blogger.com